Changemaker – Olivia Seltzer from The Cramm
On This Episode of Spark to Empower
Spark to Empower interviews Olivia Seltzer, a young change maker.
This inspiring individual shows us that anything is possible when you stay grounded with your purpose.
Olivia has been selected as the Three Dot Dash Global Teen Leader, received the Gloria Barron Prize, the Diller Teen Award, Coca-Cola Scholar and has presented at the NATO Summit, NPR, and was featured in Teen Vogue, TODAY, the Economist, Forbes, to name a few.
Through writing, she helps educate her generation with what’s important in the world. She is the founder and editor-in-chief of a daily newsletter, THE CRAMM, that summarizes the top stories into one quick read that is easy to understand, making it tangible for everyone. With Gen Z in mind, she has created an unbiased news source for our youth and has recently published the book Cramm This Book – an absolute MUST-read for all our future change makers. Her goal? Changing the world – one Cramm at a time – and creating activists out of the next generation by informing them about the world’s happenings.
Learn more about her story and what led her to follow her passions and become a change maker.
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Olivia Seltzer is the 18 year old founder and sole writer of The Cramm. She started The Cramm after the 2016 presidential election, when she became inspired to make a difference. Since then, she has written over one thousand newsletters for The Cramm, spoken at NATO Engages and the IFTF Summit, been featured in NPR, Teen Vogue, TODAY, The Economist, and Forbes (among others), been selected as a Three Dot Dash Global Teen Leader, Diller Teen Awardee, Gloria Barron Prize Winner, and Coca-Cola Scholar, and traveled to different college campuses starting a grassroots movement to educate the world’s future. She is the author of Cramm This Book (published by Philomel Books), which gives readers the background to the important issues shaping our world today. Her goal? Changing the world - one Cramm at a time - and creating activists out of the next generation by informing them about the world’s happenings. She will be attending Harvard in the class of 2026 to further her interest in political science.
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Connie Maday: 0:00
Welcome to Spark to Empower. This podcast is about igniting the power within ourselves to bring about positive change for the world. This is the place for inspiration and celebrating change makers. I am so excited to be here today, today, the honor and privilege of welcoming Olivia Seltzer, this inspiring individual shows us that anything is possible when you stay grounded with your purpose. Olivia has been selected as the Three Dot Dash Global team leader received the Gloria barren prize. The Diller Teen award Coca-Cola scholar has presented at the NATO summit, NPR and was featured in Teen Vogue, Today. The Economist, just to name a few. She is the founder and editor in chief of a daily newsletter, The CRAMM that summarizes the top stories into one quick read that is easy to understand, making it tangible for everyone with gen Z in mind, she has created an unbiased news source for our youth and has recently published the book, CRAMM This Book, an absolute must read for all our future change makers. Her goal, changing the world one cramm at a time and creating activists out of the next generation by informing them about the world's happenings. I love this. I'm so excited to have you here, Olivia.
Olivia Seltzer: 1:26
Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here.
Connie Maday: 1:29
So this podcast is all about inspiring change makers and celebrating our inner power. And what I admire most about you. As you've taken your passion and you're using it to create change. And by helping our young people and older people learn about what's happening in the world, you're helping inspire activism. And that is truly, truly amazing. So I am so inspired by you and I'm just so grateful to celebrate you and have you here today. Welcome.
Olivia Seltzer: 2:01
Thank you so much.
Connie Maday: 2:02
So we're gonna dive right in and we're. Start a little, let's take a little journey to your childhood. I'm so grateful. I got to actually experience a little part of that as your third grade teacher, many years ago, nine years ago.
Olivia Seltzer: 2:17
Something like that that,
Connie Maday: 2:18
Something like that. Right. So I wanted to have you share a little bit, how would you describe yourself as a child or how, you know, how would you have described yourself back?
Olivia Seltzer: 2:30
Yeah. I mean, I was definitely like the shy, quiet kid. I struggled with social anxiety. I was extremely introverted. I'm sure you saw that as my teacher, I was like, not the kid who was speaking up in class ever. And that really, I think. Impacted for sure. The work I do with The Cramm and then shaped a lot of, of who I am as a person in that I still am more comfortable maybe being by myself, which lends itself very well to The Cramm. Since I spent a lot of time writing in my room by myself. But I also was very committed to wanting to get involved in the world and wanting to make a difference. My parents always told me that they didn't care if I failed every single one of my classes, they didn't care if I didn't do anything. That was a traditional, like marker of success in life. All they cared about was that I was happy and that I was putting more good into the world. And I really tried to lead my life with intention and making sure that I was doing those things so that I was doing things that legitimately brought me joy and doing things that were also hopefully putting more good and kindness into the world.
Connie Maday: 3:34
Wow. Olivia, I mean, that is really what it's about, right? Living our life with joy and intention and making a positive impact on the world. That's amazing. And that you are able to have that clarity at such a young age and know that, you know, have that kind of, as you're, you're grounding your guiding compass, that's just so awesome. I also just really appreciate how you've acknowledged who you are and you're not going out there and trying to change who you are. You're embracing who you are and recognizing, okay, this is how I can make a difference. And this is the way that I wanna show up. And I just think that's so awesome because we need to be ourselves and live a life of joy. Bravo.
Olivia Seltzer: 4:16
Thank you.
Connie Maday: 4:18
I wanna ask you, so when did you realize that writing was your passion and that was a way that you could really share your voice?
Olivia Seltzer: 4:26
I mean, it's sort of been one of those things that I can't remember a time where I didn't know that I wanted to do something with writing. Like as old back as like first grade, I was like, I wanna be a writer and I wanna do this as a career. And over the years it kind of changed like what sort of writing that was. So. At one point, I wanted to be a novelist. At one point I wanted to be a poet, that was very short lived. I was very good at it. and then I, again, wanted to write a book and I did write a book fiction. And then there came a time where I realized that I could actually use writing and what I cared about to make a difference in the world. And that's when I got interested in journalism
Connie Maday: 5:02
I love that I could definitely see in third grade that you were a writer without a doubt without a doubt.
Olivia Seltzer: 5:08
Yeah, I remember. I remember like at the end of class, if, because I think in third grade we were starting to learn how to type. So I would always like write up little short stories on our computers and stuff.
Connie Maday: 5:17
That's so exciting. Okay. So tell your story a little bit about how The Cramm started. Just give us a little background, you know, for a youth that maybe doesn't have the full background story yet. What's your story?
Olivia Seltzer: 5:30
Yeah. So in 2017, I attended a junior high school Santa Barbara junior high, where the majority of the students were Latin X and many of their parents were undocumented immigrants. Personally, my grandfather was an undocumented immigrant for Mexico city. He was fortunate enough to gain citizenship. I know many people, unfortunately aren't so. When the results of the 2016 presidential election came. There was definitely a lot of talk about how, what was going on in our government was impacting us as students and as kids living in a community with so many immigrants. And I felt like that was that first. That was really the first time that we all sort of started to make those connections and understand how directly we were being impacted by politics. But I also noticed that none of us were actually reading or watching the news because it's primarily created by and geared towards an older demographic. And it just, unfortunately, wasn't connecting. And I saw that as a really big problem, because as simple as it sounds, you can't change the world unless you know about it. Meaning if you don't know about something going on in the world, you can exactly do anything to try to, to find a solution, to try to help the people who are being affected. So like we've already established since I've always loved writing. I was like, okay, why don't I try to create a news source that actually does connect to young people. So in February 20th, 2017, I started waking up every morning at 5:00 AM to read the news, create relevant stories, and then rewrite them in a way that speaks to generation Z before sending it out across multiple platforms.
Connie Maday: 6:58
That's so amazing. And, and what I also love about what you do is you're really trying to create an unbiased, condensed, so really short, you know, impartial. You're not going with one specific, you know, group of people or the other, like you're trying to tell the news for all. And that's, that's hard to do. How do you do that? How do you capture such a diverse and global perspective? For an audience in a short manner. How do you do that?
Olivia Seltzer: 7:28
I mean, there are a few elements there. I knew when I started The Cramm that I wanted it to be unbiased because I had a lot of friends who had the opposite political beliefs of me, and I didn't wanna create a new source for young people and then have certain young people read it and feel alienated and then not have anywhere to turn, to get their news information. So I've always been very committed to that. I make sure to read as many different news outlets and as many different news sources as I possibly can. I'll even read the exact same news story on multiple different news outlets, just to make sure I'm getting as broad and unbiased to perspective as possible before I go to do my own writing. And then I actually have. An editorial team. So a group of young people from all over the world who will each day send in new stories from their local communities. And many of those new stories end up making their way into the cram. So it's really giving more of a global perspective instead of just reflecting my innate biases as a like 18 year old living in California with my like different backgrounds and beliefs.
Connie Maday: 8:28
Thank you for doing that for us. And if you have not checked out The Cramm yet, you need to go check that out. I was, just before we hopped on, I was reading my daily Cramm to get my little update. So thank you. So throughout this process throughout your life, what did you find to be the most challenging obstacle or obstacles that you've had to kind of overcome throughout this process?
Olivia Seltzer: 8:48
I mean, definitely the biggest one is just a lack of resources, including like a lack of education about what I was setting out to do, because I had never ridden any sort of like non-fiction before, aside from like writing essays for school and, you know, we weren't writing essays about the news. We were writing about very different topics. So that was like an adjustment learning how to write responsibly about what was going on in the. In a way that was accurate and actually informative and effective. Learning how to build a website. Like I had to teach myself how to do that. I had to teach myself how to build a newsletter, how to market a newsletter, how to send it out, all the things that you're going through right now, and that any entrepreneur goes through when they're starting a company. So that was all something I had to do by myself. But I felt very grateful that I had tools like internet and social media and things like that. That actually, I was able to teach myself how to do all of those things, because I'm very aware. An 18 year old for my parents' generation. Couldn't have done that.
Connie Maday: 9:51
That's so true. I mean, anything is possible, right? You could teach yourself coding. I think you, you said at one point that you had to do some of that as well. It's, it's incredible the resources that are actually out there and what is at our fingertips now. So I agree, and it is a learning curve, but you had an idea and you went for it and not just a newsletter that you send out every day, but now you've written a book Cramm This Book this book. So talk a little bit about the goal of this book and how long it took you to write. Tell us a little bit of that journey too. Yeah.
Olivia Seltzer: 10:21
So over the years of writing the cram, I realized that there's this assumption in the news that we all have a basic understanding of. Different historical political events that have happened that end up shaping what's going on in the world today. But in reality, a lot of us don't actually have that, that knowledge and it can make it really hard to actually understand the roots of what's going on in the world today and understand the complexities of what's going on in the world today. So I really wanted to write a book that actually solved that problem gave us the background to current events affecting us right now, when that ended up becoming Cramm This Book. So from writing The Cramm, I had been able to get in touch with a couple of literary agents, which I was very grateful for. And then when the pandemic hit, I had a lot of different speaking engagements and different events, obviously school, lots of different things that were canceled. And I was like, okay, this is actually the perfect opportunity to write a book because I'm not at school six hours a day. I'm not like having all of these other things going on that would make it difficult to spend all day writing. So I started interviewing with editors and publishers. I was thankful enough to end up with film all books, an imprint of penguin, random house with an incredible editor that I loved working with. So. It ended up taking, I would say I got the book deal in June, 2020. I finished my final draft of the book in January, 2021. There was a ton of research involved, a ton of talking with experts and having people fact check of course, aside from the writing process itself. And then over the next six months, then. There are the stages that I didn't necessarily know about, of like working with copy editors and making sure that you're getting credits for all the photographs and design elements and working with an illustrator who also happened to be a 17 year old, who I went to high school with. So that was a really cool process too. So there are all these like extra steps aside from just. The writing process itself of getting the book deal and the logistics, and then marketing it out to people. But it was just such a, an incredible process. And I really loved it. And it was a great thing to happen during the pandemic too, to actually give me like a reason to stay inside all day.
Connie Maday: 12:28
Yes. I mean, look at the time that you put into that during a time that we all were kind of shifting and, and adjusting in the world. Incredible and cram this book. I mean, this is written in a way that's easy to digest. I love how you have your voice throughout the story or throughout the story throughout the book, but you inspired us to be change makers. So even though you're giving us the facts, you also have woven in there. Okay. But it's really up to us to make a difference. And I just, I love that thread throughout. So will you tell us, Olivia, for those that haven't read the book, what is that style and why did you choose that?
Olivia Seltzer: 13:12
Yeah, I always wanted to write The Cramm, like the newsletter in a way that felt very conversational. That basically felt like if I was trying to tell one of my friends about what was going on in the world, how would I say it? So while I did want it to reflect the voice of young people, I didn't want to make it feel forced or. Throwing in slang words or things like that, because I did want it to still be like high quality news that anyone of any age could read. So for cram this book, I had to take that voice. I had already developed for The Cramm, but adjust it for a book. So instead of writing in like short little paragraphs and sentences about the news, actually being like, okay, how am I gonna write 20 pages in this voice about this topic? And still feel authentic to how I would write about the news. So that was, it was definitely trial and error, but I think it, it ended up coming very naturally because the nice thing about writing about the news is that it's already happened, you know, having to make up a story
Connie Maday: 14:08
Right.
Olivia Seltzer: 14:08
So it gives you a bit more room to play around with the voice and the stylistic choices themselves. And then I also a very big part of it were the media elements of the book. So having text messages between we're leaders in countries and things like that, and having different maps, showing. Where, where these things are happening in the world, because I think that can be an abstract thing for some young people to understand having photographs and Instagram question boxes and tweets and all these other elements that really, I think, made the book come more alive.
Connie Maday: 14:38
Definitely made it come more alive. It made it more. Tangible to really dive into. And there were parts where even though the historic moment that you were writing about, wasn't a funny moment. It was how you kind of brought a little lightness into that so we could learn about it. I, I really appreciated that. So if you haven't checked it out, Cramm This Book, you've gotta go get it. What about advice? If you were to tell any young, aspiring writers out there, what advice could you give them?
Olivia Seltzer: 15:14
I would honestly say to find something that you're very interested in, whether it's within the nonfiction space or the fiction space and just start writing about it. I was always the person who did not write with an outline when I was younger. So when I would get into starting to like write a story, then I'd be like, wait, I have no idea where this is going, but I feel like that's the kind of stuff that can come later. I think just developing a true love for writing and developing your voice and the kinds of like writerly flares you're into, I think that's just a very important part of, of getting into that space. And I think making sure too, that you're doing it because you really do love it. I know when I started writing, I was like, I wanna get a book published, but that's the kind of thing that when it actually did happen, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is amazing. I never thought this would happen. So I think it's important to like truly love it and truly be writing about the kinds of things that you care about.
Connie Maday: 16:07
Definitely. Oh my goodness. Yes. And I know there's more books than you. I know there's more coming
Olivia Seltzer: 16:11
I hope so for sure.
Connie Maday: 16:13
So if there's somebody out there who wants to help, maybe not in writing, but they wanna help, they wanna do something. They don't know where to start. Do you have any. For our young people.
Olivia Seltzer: 16:23
Yeah. This is actually something I literally gave like a Ted talk about this, like last two weeks ago. So this is not right my mind. But awesome. I think that it's really important to think about the kinds of things that you already are doing in your life every day. For me, that was writing, I think about how you can apply them to a certain issue going on in the world that you maybe care about and think about how you can actually use it to try to make an impact. So again, for me, that was writing and I figured that while I wasn't super into science, so I couldn't like cure cancer or I wasn't like an extrovert, so I couldn't go out and like lead marches and things like that. I could at least try to educate other people about the issues facing our world. So then they could learn how to use their own skill sets and hobbies and passions to try to find solutions to the problems. So I think that's a really important place to start because I think that actually loving what you're doing while trying to help the world, it's just sort of the greatest thing ever because it's incredibly fulfilling.
Connie Maday: 17:22
Absolutely. It gets back to that joy and intention that we started with, right?
Olivia Seltzer: 17:25
Yeah.
Connie Maday: 17:26
If you've found that something that really lights you up, that really brings you that, that peace and that happiness and that inner joy, and you are living a life with intention and purpose and making a change. That is it right there you are, you know, you're living your purpose. That's amazing. That's what we're all about here we wanna really try to ignite that in others. And if you think back to your 12 year old self, if there was something that you wish you knew when you were 12 that you know now that maybe a 12 year old out there gleam some insight from what would you wish that you could tell your 12 year old self or, or that you knew back then?
Olivia Seltzer: 18:07
Thinking back to where I was when I was 12, especially towards the end of being 12 like before I started the CRA. So everything going back to what I was saying was sort of like why I started the CRA, I just know, I felt very helpless and hopeless and I felt like there was really nothing I could do as a 12 year old to create any change. I was obviously too young to vote. I just drew the age to where I actually can vote. I felt like I was too young to have any significant role in any existing organization. So just thinking about what was going in the world felt really overwhelming. And I, I really had no idea what I could do. So I think I would tell my 12 year old self. I actually did have the power to make a difference. We all have the power to make a difference. And that while obviously there are any number of horrible things going on in the world at any given time, there are always going to be people who are going to rise up to try to make the world a better place. And I think that's a really important thing to keep in mind too, especially with everything going on now.
Connie Maday: 19:03
So important and kind of a follow up with that, Olivia, I mean, you're reading the news every day and you are ex you're exposing yourself to all the things that are happening in the world. And that's a lot to take in. How do you make sure to keep that joy and that intention and that boundary up for yourself. So you're not taking in all of the hardships, but you're actually using it and spinning it to help make a change. How do you do that? How do you set that boundary for yourself?. I think
Olivia Seltzer: 19:29
It's difficult for sure, because it is very heavy reading the news the past few years. I mean, always it's heavy and I'm a very sensitive person, so it's not necessarily easy to spend, like at least an hour every day, reading about all the things going on in the world. But I think having a purpose behind it is really helpful. So knowing that I'm reading the news to then write about the news versus. Endlessly scrolling through the news during the day with no purpose, except for to learn, which is a very good purpose. But I think that that can make it feel a lot heavier because you're not actually taking that and doing something over as a result of it. And I think for me, really The Cramm because of that reason, does feel like a coping mechanism because I know that even if no one's reading it, I still feel like I'm at least trying to do something to, to do something about what I was just reading about in the news. So I think that that's like a very important thing to remember for people that to try to actually make sure that you have a purpose behind exposing yourself to the news. If that purpose is to educate yourself, that's an amazing purpose, but I think being sure to set those clear boundaries and set those clear goals is key to making sure you don't get too caught up in it.
Connie Maday: 20:40
So important. And I think that again is one of the things that I appreciate about The Cramm, because for me, it is overwhelming to read the news and get all the information and all the stories. And it's easy to kind of go into this place of, oh my goodness, what is happening? But The Cramm is short, it's sweet. You get the facts you get what's important. And you can take it in without feeling all of the, the heaviness. I feel like it's like a lighter dose I'm getting what's important. And now I'm gonna take that into my day. So I just so appreciate that as someone that, you know, sometimes it's just like, okay, there's too much. I got to pause on that. So thank you. Thank you.
Olivia Seltzer: 21:19
Thank you.
Connie Maday: 21:19
Yeah. So we're gonna, I wanna lighten it up a little. What is something that people might not know about you?
Olivia Seltzer: 21:26
Let me think. I mean, I'm not that interesting of a person. This is the only interesting thing about me. I kind of just spend all day sitting on the couch reading, when I not writing The Cramm.
Connie Maday: 21:36
That is interesting,
Olivia Seltzer: 21:38
but I am very excited. I'll be going to Harvard in the fall to further my interest in political science.
Connie Maday: 21:43
Yay!.
Olivia Seltzer: 21:43
And I'm actually very interested in in the world of human rights law.
Connie Maday: 21:46
That's awesome.
Olivia Seltzer: 21:47
Something that I could maybe see myself doing in the future. I of course wanna continue doing The Cramm but that's always something that has been really interesting to me.
Connie Maday: 21:55
That's amazing. I know I was gonna ask what is kind of your next vision with The Cramm?
Olivia Seltzer: 21:59
I'd really love to expand on the current newsletter format, build a 24 live new site, updating as events happen around the world with journalists and correspondence all over the world. And then also really delve into the audio and visual space of the news as well, because that's sort of uncharted territory right now for The Cramm. And I think there's just so much to be done there.
Connie Maday: 22:17
Yeah. Okay. Olivia, you talked a little bit about success earlier. How, what would be your definition of success?
Olivia Seltzer: 22:25
Yeah, I think everybody has a different definition and I think that most definitions are never going to be good enough for people. I think. Even the person who objectively could be the most successful person on earth, they could still feel that they're not successful enough in some way. Like you're always gonna be comparing yourself to somebody else. So I think for me, success just means being happy with whatever I'm doing in my life. I try to ignore like, Those traditional like arbors of success, like numbers and subscribers and followers and awards and things like that. Because I think that even though I've been very fortunate to do well in a lot of those regards, there's always someone who's doing better. So that's not, I don't think the, the right way to, to lead a happy life. I think just making sure that every day. When you go to sleep at night, you're like, I I'm happy with how I led my day. I think to me, that's success.
Connie Maday: 23:17
That is so well said, and I absolutely 100% agree with you there. And that notion of being able to feel fully grateful and joyful about how the day went and, you know, life and it's, that's beautiful. Thank you. Thank you for sharing. Okay, we've got it. We've got another question for you here. Who is the most impactful person in your life or who are the most impactful people? Why
Olivia Seltzer: 23:45
Definitely my parents, I think I talked about earlier, how they always instilled to me that putting more good into the world is the most important thing also. Telling me that there was never any pressure for me to going back to the success question, to like follow those traditional markers of success. So I think that having, and, and they also always were very encouraging of me too. Like when I was younger and I was like, I wanna be an author someday. They're like, write a book now, like, we'll help you figure that out. Or when I wanted to start a news outlet, they were like, That's totally something you're capable of. And I don't think, I think that that's a, really, a really cool reaction from my parents. And that's just been like the fact that they've always empowered me to feel like I'm actually capable of doing all of these things and always like stood by me and helped support me throughout it. I think that that's really shaped who I am and the fact that they always treated me too with so much respect advocate and like included me in decisions and treated me. Any adult member of the family. I think that that like really helped me develop my voice and made me feel like I could advocate for things.
Connie Maday: 24:50
That's, that's so incredible. And that takes a lot, you know, parenting is such a journey and everyone's, you know, in my opinion, everyone's trying to do their best, but to really be able to. Celebrate your child's idea and let them run with it, especially at a young age, especially when there might be a lot of obstacles in the way to figure out how right. But just to celebrate that, that empowerment, that desire to make a difference at an early age. I remember sitting down with your mom and having a conversation too, and she shared a similar notion that, that you came to her with this idea and she just kind of said, "okay, You should do it. now!". And, and that, you know, to be able to do that as a parent, I think says a lot about your parents and how they've supported you and hopefully to encourage other parents that, you know, your child is capable and, and they can make a difference and they have ideas and we need to embrace that and empower our youth to really be those change makers. So I love that. Love it. Absolutely amazing.
Olivia Seltzer: 25:52
Yeah.
Connie Maday: 25:53
Okay. Well, I have a little special something. I don't know if you remember this microphone.
Olivia Seltzer: 25:58
Yes. Yeah.
Connie Maday: 26:00
And my crazy glasses, but in my classroom, we used to do the birthday song and I used to interview you guys and ask you crazy questions. So. I have some questions for you to wrap up our interview, fast favorites. We've talked about what brings you joy with writing, but what about beyond writing? Favorite thing to do that brings you joy
Olivia Seltzer: 26:23
Reading.
Connie Maday: 26:24
Reading. Love it. And who I know you talked about kind of who inspires you with your parents beyond your parents? Do you have a hero or if you could meet anyone alive, deceased, who would you meet and why?
Olivia Seltzer: 26:36
Well, I'll say, I'll say two. So alive Malala Yousafzai and deceased Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Connie Maday: 26:39
And why?
Olivia Seltzer: 26:40
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, because as a Jewish woman who is interested in human rights law, she's just so incredibly inspiring to me and the change she's been able to make. And then Malala Yousafzai because she's one of the biggest reasons that I found myself drawn towards activism and towards trying to help educate people.
Connie Maday: 26:58
Your inspiration. I love that. Okay. What's your favorite way to start the day?
Olivia Seltzer: 27:03
Wordle
Connie Maday: 27:07
Wordle. Okay. Tell us a little more.
Olivia Seltzer: 27:08
Well, I'm like. Sort of a word junkie. So which goes in line with the writing and reading thing. My family refuses to play with me because they think I would always beat them. So I have to find word games that I can play by myself. So I play Wordle. Dordle, which is double wordle, Quordle quadruple Wordle in Octurtle, which is eight Wordle at the same time
Connie Maday: 27:31
oh my goodness. that is amazing. I'm gonna have to look that up. It's my kind of classic question. If you could have a fountain think like chocolate fountain with, you know, chocolate coming out and it would just work on your command, what would you like to have pouring out of it? And it can be anything.
Olivia Seltzer: 27:49
Could it be something like made up?
Connie Maday: 27:51
Totally
Olivia Seltzer: 27:52
I think like something that could heal people would be really nice that a found that do that.
Connie Maday: 27:57
Love it. I would like that fountain too. Okay. Something you wish everyone in the world knew or did.
Olivia Seltzer: 28:06
I mean going in line. My whole earlier theme I was talking about. I wish everyone in the world knew that they were capable of creating change and that I. Aside from the fact that we're all capable, that I think we'll actually have a responsibility to try to put more good into the world.
Connie Maday: 28:19
Yes, totally agree. Oh my gosh, Olivia, that was really well said. So beautiful. There you have it. Olivia seltzer, a change maker. Olivia, thank you for all that you do for our world. I look forward to hearing all about how your dreams and your visions evolve. And Olivia, this book is tremendous. I'm gonna hold it up again. It's incredibly impactful. My oldest has already read it. My daughter wants to read it too. And how you've distilled history into understandable chunks. It's not a small task and how you did it. I loved reading every part of it and it allowed me to connect even more deeply with the history. That's so important for us to all know, as we move forward together.
Olivia Seltzer: 29:00
Thank so much A
Connie Maday: 29:01
huge gift to the world. And everyone needs this book. If you're a parent, if you're a teacher, you need it. It provides depth and understanding and language of how to talk about the issues that are imperative to know. Youth, you need this book too. It creates an unbiased perspective that reflects one world, one humanity, oneness. And what I really appreciated are those through lines, like I mentioned of inspiration throughout. So you've gotta go get Cramm This Book and to find out more about Olivia. And where to order the book, you can click below this podcast or go to thecramm.com T H E C R A M M COM. To everyone listening, thanks so much for being a part of this journey, for being here. And for listening to the end, it's clear that you, realize that you are here to make a difference. Today. We talked about joy and intention, and I wanna remind you that the only person you need to be is yourself. Be kind, be bold, be you. You are here for a reason. Let’s celebrate our uniquenesses, discover our WHYs and live it large. To find out more about my story and message, go to sparktoempower.com.
Remember that change making starts with the small actions we take everyday. It starts with how we show up Be your authentic self. Live your truth. Be kind. Be bold. Be you. Thanks so much. Until next time. Spread kindness in the world.
